Soccernomics

Soccernomics

Simon Kuper Stefan Szymanski / Jul 16, 2019

Soccernomics Why do England lose Why does Scotland suck Why doesn t America dominate the sport internationally and why do the Germans play with such an efficient but robotic style These are questions every soccer

  • Title: Soccernomics
  • Author: Simon Kuper Stefan Szymanski
  • ISBN: 9781568584256
  • Page: 362
  • Format: Paperback
  • Why do England lose Why does Scotland suck Why doesn t America dominate the sport internationally and why do the Germans play with such an efficient but robotic style These are questions every soccer aficionado has asked Soccernomics answers them.Using insights and analogies from economics, statistics, psychology, and business to cast a new and entertaining light onWhy do England lose Why does Scotland suck Why doesn t America dominate the sport internationally and why do the Germans play with such an efficient but robotic style These are questions every soccer aficionado has asked Soccernomics answers them.Using insights and analogies from economics, statistics, psychology, and business to cast a new and entertaining light on how the game works, Soccernomics reveals the often surprisingly counter intuitive truths about soccer.

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    1. As soccer being my favorite sport, I was really hoping to like this a lot more than I actually did; and it did have some really interesting parts to it. A big problem it had in fact was it took way to long to actually get to those good parts. If it had kept in my favorite sections and cut the length of the book in half, I would be giving this book 5 stars easily. I can't complain too bad though, because I did get some enjoyment out of it and I did get some really interesting facts as well.


    2. Fascinating use of statistics to disprove the prevailing social mindset on how football functions, a real easy and enjoyable read.Quick answers for you: Why doesn’t America dominate the sport internationally? Actually it's because they still don't care too much and haven't imported enough European knowledge.Why England loses? They're actually better than they ought to be.Why Australia is destined to become the kings of the world's most popular sport? That's a lie designed to sell copies of the [...]


    3. Soccernomics is a statistical study of the world’s most popular sport in the vein of Steven Levitt’s bestseller Freakonomics. Authors Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski delve into soccer by abandoning all conventional wisdom about the sport and studying it strictly by the numbers. Because of their data-heavy approach, the majority of the book focuses on European soccer, because it is from European sources that their findings are most reliable.The book is framed around several questions: Which [...]


    4. This book is the Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything of football. The book explores common questions in football and uses data to dispel many mythical notions.Why don't England win more often? Who are the best fans? What is the best business model in club football? What is the link between medical facilities in a nation and its on-field success? Why aren't there more Champions League winners from the biggest capital cities across Europe?Apart from answering the [...]


    5. For a book that tries to equate MoneyBall to soccer it completely misses the point. It picks and chooses facts, wraps it in very basic stats to make it sound like they have done some work and maths and present there theories as fact which don't stand up to any scrutiny. I have never been so relived that the last 10% of the book was acknowledgements and and index. That said the passages about OL was interesting but the only thing I really took from it was under 23 is an ideal age to buy a player. [...]


    6. Interesting take on lots of stuff about soccer, and I learned a bunch of stuff, but I think some of the conclusions are flat-out wrong.I think the authors tried to draw too many conclusions from a relatively small amount of knowledge of baseball and football. Many lessons have been learned since Moneyball (defense is valuable), and there's a lot more knowledge about football (running backs, not so much) than what was stated. One chapter tried to argue that the NFL has no more parity than the EPL [...]


    7. As I salivate over the obscenely large television I might be purchasing just in time for this year's world cup, I was really hoping this book would give me an overview of the global soccer business. Instead, it was a disconnected series of not-that-interesting anecdotes, with lots of statistics, some of which weren't bad, but none that exciting. These guys could have used Michael Lewis as an editor -- he could have maybe spun the book into decent shape.


    8. Marcelo and I got into a screaming fit last night over this book. I was trying to tell him some things that this book said and he didn't believe me. And so he started going off about how anyone can put ANYTHING in a book, and how you can't always believe what books say. (I think he was supposed to be talking about the Internet, but whatever). I think he was offended when I said that English Soccer owners run their clubs very unlike Americans. So the English almost never make money, but the Ameri [...]


    9. Being precisely one of the people who tends to scoff at the supposedly American use of the word 'soccer', preferring and even insisting on 'football', there's a chastening moment in this tome when the writers, who have been using the word enough by that stage to really be sticking in my craw, point out that in fact the decline in the use of the word essentially dates to the late 1970s, when the NASL was formed. That it's essentially a form of cultural snobbery: you use it, then we won't. Which I [...]


    10. As a recent (~last five years or so) fan of soccer beyond watching the US at the World Cup, and as someone who respects how insightful data analysis can help us see through what turns out to be weakly justified or even flatly erroneous received wisdom, this book should have been in my wheelhouse. And indeed, parts of it were. There are a lot of interesting points made here about a range of topics, like how, contra the complaints of supposedly beleaguered fans, England actually overperforms in in [...]


    11. Maybe the best way to explain how fascinating and unusual this book is, is to look at the people that wrote it; it's such a curious combination that the book takes time to explain how they even met in its introduction (it was at a conference in Turkey). Simon Kuper is the kind of man you might expect, a sports columnist published in several broadsheets and with two previous books about football under his belt, but Stefan Szymanski holds a PhD in economics, has written about politics and arts for [...]


    12. A longer version of the following review can be accessed at: Why England LoseI must confess that I entered upon the reading of Why England Lose with a heavy heart. Although I enjoyed the playful tone and sharp conclusions of Freakonomics, I found it to be a somewhat glib volume that exercised extreme selectivity with its data in order to “prove” its points. For the world of football to be afforded the same treatment by an economics profession that has largely lost touch with the real world, [...]


    13. It is nice in some parts where the authors leave statistics aside, like when they quoted somebody else or didn't talk in just numbers. it was very nice explaining the Hiddink experience, south african football, whether club boards really care or not about silverware, working class values between English footballers and so. But it was really boring and a bit naive when it used regression and other techniques with some factors to check whether a certain country is overachieving or underperforming [...]


    14. I’ll be honest I saw the review“A blend of Freakanomics and Fever Pitch, bringing suprising economic analysis on the world’s most popular sport… a thught-provoking, often amysing read –Bloomberg News“trumpeted on the cover of this book and I instinctively knew it would be a chore to like it. I quite enjoyed reading Fever Pitch and the less I say about Freakanomics the better. As with Freakanomics *sigh* it is puzzling if one is expected to read this as a scholar or as a popularizatio [...]


    15. The quote on the cover sums it up: "A blend of Freakonomics and Fever Pitch, bringing surprising economic analysis to bear on the world's most popular sport." - Bloomberg NewsThe chapter on penalty kicks was outstanding, some others not so much. A lot of the best parts of the book were seeming non-sequiturs relative to the primary push of the authors. Along with the question of penalty kicks, the authors whetted the appetite of the reader by touching on topics of discrimination in soccer, the ri [...]


    16. Soccernomics is done in the style of "Freakanomics," but with a sports writer's eye for details and story. Having studied Statistics and Data Analysis, I know that all data and surveys results must be taken with a grain of salt. Although, the writers do have a persuasive argument for how economics and location, strongly effect why certain countries continually do well in international competitions, and others continue to struggle. One particular chapter I liked, discussed Game Theory, and how it [...]


    17. Inspired by Levitt's Freakonomics, Soccernomics is yet another book about wait it's the first book that tries to datamine everything about soccer (ahm, football.) Two authors with affinity for football and statistics have embarked in the eternal game of showing that you can prove anything you want with unverified data and faulty methods. Much as in the case of Freakonomics, I disliked the results: using the method of this work (regression of multiple rather thin and shaky datasets), you could [...]


    18. This is a book in the Freakonomics, Moneyball genre, and it is quite good. These guys have a strong mastery of the sports end plus the math to back it up. They certainly make some great points about overpaying for veterans and the lack of professionalism in managing.Though I suppose a good thing, I had my quibbles. It's another book claiming there is no more parity in the NFL than in the Premier League and top soccer, and that's nonsense. The same few teams win every year in soccer, and the fact [...]


    19. I'm not a mathematician, but I am a lover of 'the beautiful game', and I found this book really engrossing and read it quickly. It has a completely different way of looking at football from a socio-economical/mathematical angle, and made some really good points. I didn't agree with all of their arguments though, I thought the logic was flawed in places, but I loved the fresh perspective and occasional appearance of dry humour throughout the book. In several places it hits you with some truths wh [...]


    20. Soccernomics is a fantastic look at a soccer from a completely different point-of-view than you're probably used to seeing. Using statistical techniques like regression and massive amounts of old match results and other data related to both the classic and modern game of soccer, Kuper and Szymanski bring a new insight to how we think of the beautiful game. There are sections on national teams, club teams, and fans, and they all bring a style similar to Freakonomics and its look at different popu [...]


    21. Excellent football book, whose premise is to provide statistical background to why certain teams do well and others do not. The authors provide 3 factors why certain countries do well; tradition, wealth and population and guess what – England actually do as well as statistically they should be expected to do. This provide ammunition to my argument that the English media overhypes the team’s chances and should learn a little humility. Other surprising revelations included that World Cups actu [...]


    22. I had previously read How Soccer Explains the World: An Unlikely Theory of Globalization by Franklin Foer. In that book, Soccer is used to explain globalization. I thought this book would use soccer to explain global economics. This is the diametric opposite of that - it uses economics and statistical models to explain soccer. None the less, it is a great book. The authors have examined a mountains of data to illustrate the past,present, and future of global soccer. The potential dryness of stat [...]


    23. A perfect blend of stats and explanations, debunking some common footballing myths, and leaving me as a much more informed football fan than when I started. A highlight for me was linking football to socio-economic factors, using wealth - experience - population as variables to show how national teams were over, or under, performing relatively. A second highlight was looking at the history of British clubs and why industrialised cities outside of the state city became so successful. Brilliant bo [...]


    24. Been meaning to read this forever, so rather than sit and day-drink between WC games one day, I walked down to the Tattered Cover and finally picked it up. Short, essay-sized chapters on topics that footy fans expound on with great certainty, that these guys (one a football scribe, the other an economist) put to the test. Which side to go during PKs. Why soccer teams don’t, and shouldn’t make money. Do coaches make a difference? Buy this, "The Ball is Round", some beer or gin, and the MLSLiv [...]


    25. Simon Kuper is top of the league when it comes to writing about soccer. Soccer correspondent for the Financial Times in London, his depth of insight into the world's game is remarkable. HIs new book is an eye opener, dispelling the arrogance of the elites, and ending the hopes of the hopeful. A brilliant chapter on Guus Hiddink finishes of the book like Ronaldo finishes off a free kick outside the box - he scores!


    26. Un sesgado estudio econométrico que evidencia la nostalgia de los ingleses por el imperio que fueron, mientras que la envidia por los norteamericanos queda expuesta en cada crítica al modelo de negocios en deportes como el béisbol, baloncesto o fútbol americano. Tampoco logran explicar claramente cómo es que los factores asociados al éxito en el fútbol no los ha cumplido Brasil.


    27. This book is a great concept but a bit uneven. If the goal was to use statistics to dispel common myths, then it failed , in part due to the ridigity of its own statistical analysis. Various chapters and sections were cool, but all too often the sample groups and medians and modes lead to a world so far removed academically that it said little about reality.


    28. Interesting application of sabermetrics to soccer. The authors use economics to disprove falacies in the world game.



    29. Like a Gladwell book, but with half as many interesting stories. The most interesting chapters by far were about why certain countries overachieve/underachieve


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